Sometimes country roads take ya to Iowa

This week the Fellas were joined by 2 guys from West Virginia that have become family.  Zac and Julian from the On the Rocks Offroad podcast came up to be a part of the Wyatt's Warriors Golf Outing and spend a few days experiencing Iowa.   

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 0:03

So hi. Hi. I think. I think you might have to turn me up maybe.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Oh, now that you're using gyres, I can't hear. Why am I sinking?

SPEAKER_05 0:11

Why am I sinking? That one's moody.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

You gotta tighten it up. All right. Tight. Very tight.

SPEAKER_07 0:19

Tight, tight, tight. Chad, you're blue.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Oh yeah, you're blue. How about now? Is that better, Chad?

SPEAKER_05 0:23

Uh yeah, yeah. I can hear myself better. I'm so good.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Uh as our as our friend Adam would say, the button has been pushed. Oh, wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 0:34

So Bob does paint B O B frontwards or backwards. Uh supplies for dealerships and uh body parts. But all of the body parts are um wait, wait, auto body parts.

SPEAKER_04 0:48

Yeah, yeah. Clairefate.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

Auto body parts, right? So, like like your truck. Um like if you needed new fenders or whatever the case will be, like he can he typically keep them in stock and drop ship to you and stuff like that, which is really cool. And the idea that we have that truck, so the cab is still original, the hood is original, and one of the front fenders is original. Um the bed is still original, but both of the flares are not, they're you know, they're newer. Um, either way, had a conversation with BOB frontwards or backwards, doesn't matter how you spell it, it's all the same. And hello. Wow, already.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

We just started. Just first time, first, first, first time kind of nervous.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

Um so, anyways, we had a conversation today about I sent him pictures of your both of your trucks, and I want one, father-in-law. Yeah, and you know, I think this is a project that he'd put off for multiple years for multiple reasons, and we kind of passed it back and forth a few times over the last year or two. Either way, he hit me today with yes, I'm gonna make room for that, and that's what we're going to do for this winter project.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Nice! Hell yeah. So next summer we will meet somewhere and mobbing in the mobbing in the minis, baby.

SPEAKER_05 2:09

Yeah, so I've got to do a little paint on the astro band. That's kind of what I'm going to do. Holy snopes.

SPEAKER_04 2:15

That's gonna be cool. Right. I like that.

SPEAKER_03 2:17

What do you even call that? That's it's not a it's like a butterscotch bronze.

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It's like cheese and blueberries.

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Just just 90s tan.

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Just makes me think.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

90s tan, I'll take it. 90s tan. So beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 2:30

That makes me feel like the cheese and cheese and sausage combo you get.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Chicken, cheese, and rice. Chicken cheese and I'm going to say the words. And whoever wants to can fill in for the dude since he's not here.

SPEAKER_05 2:42

Well, I guess I'm sitting in a seat.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Oh, somebody's ready. Kick tires like the fires. Ah, welcome to Heat You the Garage, where friends come together to share their love of life, creativity, and everything in between. Season four, episode five, the one you've been waiting for. If you didn't know who you're listening to, you're not listening to the other best podcast out there. Round the table, sitting across from me. In the wrong spot. Might be the right spot. Maybe we'll switch it up now. But is Das Chad? Hello sitting diagonally from him to my right. My passenger princess.

SPEAKER_06 3:46

Running into the dirt.

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Playing Ordship, you're gonna run us into the ground, huh? Is Big G. Hello. Sitting in Das Chad seat. All broken in by Das Chad. Now the the there is a there is a height difference over there now. I'm looking, I don't have to look up at the guy in that chair now.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

So is hold on the scene, let's see. He's looking down, but he still looks up to it.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

You want a phone book? No. Is from on the rocks all the way from West Virginia, live in studio tonight. Zach Pershing here. How's it going? And at the end of the table, the other sultry voice of On the Rocks podcast.

SPEAKER_04 4:44

That's smooth jazz. Julian Skinner. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon. He she's they'm people that drive way too far to go do a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

The podcast is just the icing on the cake. You didn't drive here for the podcast. Although you did decide to leave it. Zero hundred hours.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

It's fine. Yeah. This is when we do our best work.

SPEAKER_05 5:10

Leave it midnight and drive 12 hours.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

So we'll say we're gonna kick out right off Thursday at Friday afternoon. I knew they're on their way, but it they hadn't responded like most of the week about when they're coming, anything. It was really busy, okay? And I had I had all the chats muted so that I could try to get shit done and get out of work early. And but I'm like, I I wonder when they're coming. So I go and I'm scrolling back through the shop chat, which is the OTR chat. And okay, here's videos of Zach. That's he's probably doing live updates as they're going. Here's the newest one. I'm about to hit play in the the front door ding dongs at the shop. And I look up and these two goofballs are walking in. I'm like, what are you doing here already? How did you teleport? Right. I'm like, oh they're like, well, you I'll I'll let you guys tell the story of how you decided to leave so early.

SPEAKER_04 6:04

Yeah, we just don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

There's a lot of back and forth for sure.

SPEAKER_04 6:07

Yeah, I think I messaged you what Wednesday. I was like, what time do you want to leave? Or no, you messaged me Wednesday.

SPEAKER_03 6:12

We were just trying to get a base idea.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

He's like, hey, I'm just trying to get an idea what time I want to leave, um, so I can tell you know my family and everybody. And I was like, oh yeah, that's probably a good idea. I had a really busy week at work too, so I was kind of distracted. And uh he's like, Well, started at five, started at six. You want to leave at like five a.m. And I was like, I mean, we could leave at four, and he's like, We could leave at three, and I said, Fuck it, we're leaving at midnight. It's like if we leave at midnight, we'll get there around noon or give us time to also that was that was made on the same day, basically. Yeah, no, well, sort of, yeah. Because we left it, we came up with the idea on I think Wednesday evening. Yeah. Uh late Wednesday evening, so and then left Thursday night, which would have been Friday morning. Yeah. Drove up. Sick.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

And so they got here, and I'm like, okay, give me a little time. I got showed them around the shop, sent them down to see the river and the lock, the lock and dam. They came back, and as they were getting ready to go do that, Rich was leaving for lunch, and he's like, Hey, I'm going to lunch. If you guys are going to lunch, just lock the door. I'm like, Well, I'm gonna stay till Tony gets back from from his lunch. So make sure he's got stuff going for the afternoon, and and he goes, Then you bugging out um for the weekend? I'm like, Yeah, yeah, I am.

SPEAKER_04 7:24

So well, the original plan was to we had GPS route into Manchester, and we're just gonna go find somewhere to eat and kind of dick off for a little bit until you know you get off work or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 7:35

We never had an address, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

Because we never really had an address for anything. Because I didn't I forgot to tell you the address here. We didn't ask. Yeah, we didn't ask, we were just kind of winging it, and then we got we saw a sign for Dubuque and he was 34 miles, and he was like, Where are we going? And I was like, Well, I originally routed to Manchester, but I was like, You want to go over to complete and just kind of like show up and surprise Chris? Yes, he was like, Yeah, let's do that. I was like, sick. Turns out made the drive shorter too.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

Yeah, didn't realize that you were sitting on the Mississippi, which I have also wanted to see.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Yep, and you've now been west of the Mississippi.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

Literally, and I got to eat a rice crispy treat right on the bank.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 8:16

The Mississippi River is not running dry.

SPEAKER_04 8:19

No, it's not running dry. Congratulations. We saw the Mississippi Queen. It's much smaller than I imagined it would be. Turns out it has a sail, too. I don't know, it was weird.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

See, when when people step to surprise me at work, I'm there. I don't have the door locked. Dang they're not around or answer the phone or anything. Damn, headshot.

SPEAKER_04 8:44

It was a fun drive though. We made the best of it.

SPEAKER_03 8:47

We had we had a ball.

SPEAKER_04 8:48

Um supposedly we drove through a hurricane. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Well, we I did, we did. Uh hurricane? Everything was everything was really cool. See, Julian ripped from the house and uh we made it to Dayton pretty good, pretty good time.

SPEAKER_04 9:04

Um stopped at the new Bucky's.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Honestly, complete coincidence to show to just let everyone know. Julian and I have collectively, coincidentally, indubitably and unequivocally been to every single like new Buckeys within like the first month of them opening. Oh literally. Don't even know how that works.

SPEAKER_04 9:26

It's just kind of the Kentucky one we went to a week after it opened. Tennessee. If they didn't burn one we went to a month after it opened, oh nice and this one we went to one.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

I've never been to a busy once. A Buckeys?

SPEAKER_03 9:39

You kind of need to go for the chaos and experience.

SPEAKER_05 9:41

It's it's shitty and you should enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Truck stop Walmart.

SPEAKER_05 9:43

I I'm kind of envisioning like a Menards, but it's 75 uh a truck stop.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Yeah, 75,000 square feet. 75,000 square feet.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

And they're hollering, and people yelling. I think it's more of about getting their meat.

SPEAKER_04 9:59

Yeah, it's awesome. It's more of the experience of showing up at a gas station and you walk inside, and it's like it just everything has buckies, has the beaver on it, everything's buckies themed. Uh there's they're cooking brisket in the place, and like they're walking out and they have a bakery. When they bring out the brisket, they're like, fresh brisket on the board, and all the rest of them like repeat it in like you know, crescendo. It's chaos, and everyone rushes. It's it's a very special, like if you like crowds, you're probably not gonna like it, but at least experience it once just because it's uh it's a really special experience. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. It's just I don't know, it's magical.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

So we hit there, we ended up hitting there about uh 3, 3:30 a.m. And as we're getting there, realize that 70 is completely at a standstill. And I don't mean a little bit, I mean there's an ocean of headlights and taillights, no one's moving. I don't look a car wreck, maybe I don't know. That station was closed. It was completely shut down, and nobody was even they had the the police had the entrance and exits blocked, so like you were just not getting anywhere. Either way, made it real convenient for being at the Bucky's because we were there with like three other people that were way too loud, and kind of intended on just hanging out there for a couple of hours because it didn't look like we could do anything. We probably pilfered around for 45 minutes. I went shopping with a basket. I was literally going shopping, I almost bought a canopy. Um, they also had portable grills. I almost it's fine. So get back out to the truck, eat our brisket sandwiches at 3 30 in the morning, and he punched in the address um wherever like to complete or just Manchester, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

Well, I just I looked at the map again that was routing us, and I realized it wasn't trying to take us there. And our time hadn't changed at all from when we left the house. And I was like, That's weird. That's interesting. The GPS uh perks, anybody that was trying to figure out what GPS uh service to use, Google's the best one by far.

SPEAKER_06 12:06

100%.

SPEAKER_04 12:07

It uses live data to and it will it I've I've had it myself numerous times, and I'll be mid-route and it will change the route because of an accident that happened or something. It it routed us around the closure and back onto the interstate past where that where it was. And it wasn't even like a little bit past, it was as we were getting on the interstate, we were watching the truck that crash get flipped back up. Oh, nice. So like it took us right to where the closest spot to the interstate was that we could get back on and proceed.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

So and no one else had that opportunity because they were they were stuck on the interstate, yeah. They were already stuck, so dude, you're what a win with Buckeys again, dodged a huge bullet. That I mean that what easily would have been a three-hour delay. Yeah, yeah. That we didn't really want to have.

SPEAKER_06 12:52

Right. No one wants a three-hour delay. No, never on a 12-hour road trip.

SPEAKER_04 12:56

No, right. Well, that's why I was so confused too, because it didn't show anything on the map of like usually it'll tell you a delay, it'll you know, it'll the the arrival time will be a different color to let you know it's gonna take longer or whatever. And this it didn't change, and I was like, it's weird. And then I started looking at the route and was like, oh, it's taking us around it.

SPEAKER_03 13:13

Cool, nice rip through there. Is it what was the B town we've I'm asked? I don't know. Bardstown or something from Bardstown, Kentucky. Um from Dayton towards from Dayton on 70 towards uh B word, okay, whatever that is, whatever that town was. I feel like it was a Bloomington or maybe Browns something.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Yeah, you know, it was either way, it was a basic white girl town where it was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

Jersey a lot of barricades, a lot of jersey barriers, a lot of road work construction. Uh the rain was intense and the wind was intense enough that everybody was going 40 miles an hour, which we typically just don't do. So I mean, I'm trying to push through a little bit, and then I realize it's a real problem, and we gotta slow down because we had a bradge transition so hard.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

I was asleep in the back seat and I came off the seat.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Okay, it knocked it knocked one of our hats off of the like clothes hanger hook.

SPEAKER_04 14:20

Yeah, yeah, it was hard enough the hat and came off the hook. I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

So so we slowed down. And I I think I drove, dude. I've 1000% drove through that storm for probably three hours.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

I think it was about every three hours you and I would switch.

SPEAKER_03 14:37

It was enough to, it was, it was intense enough that it was one of those deals where like, mind you, um, you have to add in the fact side side note is that we he went to work at probably five, five fifteen. I went to work at six. I got up at six thirty, went to work at seven. On Thursday. On Thursday, and I didn't get home from work until 7 p.m. Um, he got home just a little bit before that, and so that's what we were running on is just that uh a full day shift, run home, grab your bag, in the truck, let's jet. You know what I mean? We wanted to we have this thing that anytime, and uh Chris has already heard this, but we have this thing that anytime we have an opportunity for a weekend, we'll take a weekend and try to stretch it because we typically both have the same days off. So we try to stretch it to a like a long weekend, like three day, four day. So if we get that 72 hours, 84 hours, we try to cram like 96 hours into it. And I don't mean like a little bit, it's like sleep is the last thing I care about.

SPEAKER_04 15:42

We want to do as much as we can, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Just experience full, like full experience.

SPEAKER_04 15:47

Like you took us like a whole tour of area. And we'll get we'll get them at first.

SPEAKER_05 15:50

Chad, what are we drinking today? I don't know. What do we want to experience this mystery bottle that got left behind accidentally?

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Some guy left a mystery bottle behind, it's purple.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

Suppose that we can only get it in Georgia. Crown Royal Mikey. So well, let's give it a shot.

SPEAKER_04 16:08

You know, looking at the color of the bottle, it makes sense that you can only get it in Georgia. Use your imagination.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

Pun intended, by the way, on that. Give it a shot. Oh, purple. I don't remember if I tried this last night or not.

SPEAKER_05 16:25

I did not.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

I don't remember, but anyway, at any rate, um along with Zach and Julian being here, before we get too far in and forget, we did have friends from Indiana up here as well. We had uh Ricky and and uh Kelly Cox were up here for the golf for the golf outing, and we'll get the guys' take on golf outing first. And then uh Mark Hathaway was up here, and this is Mark's bottle of uh that he forgot, so chat and I'll have a little try of it, and then we'll we'll save the we'll give the rest back to it.

SPEAKER_03 16:58

We'll send it back.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

And he brought you guys a bottle that you're supposed to take back, two bottles. Um Adam, one is yours. I can't promise it'll the seal will be sealed or not.

SPEAKER_03 17:07

It will, it will make it unscathed. Um Rush Creek Distilling, double, double oak bourbon. I I forget where this was from, but it's a limited, a limited release.

SPEAKER_04 17:17

It's hot. Is it? I like it. It's real hot.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

Like oh, it's from Illinois. This is an Illinois bourbon.

SPEAKER_04 17:23

Whatever it's it's like the one we had last night. Is it as hot as that one? Yeah, it's it's like almost as hot as that one.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

That one, yeah. So he brought us a bottle of of uh rares. Rares rare saint. That's a private barrel. Love that. Yeah, love the barrel.

SPEAKER_05 17:39

That has like a bullet look to it. Yeah, it was good, but it it was spicy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

So that was. I guess we left them in the house.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

You guys also brought some moonshine up for us.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

Yeah, three quarts, baby. We run it.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

You heard uh we tried some of the straight the stupid the I guess non-flavored.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

Um got a clear, uh pecan and a fruit punch.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Yeah. And we tried the clear Friday night. That's gasoline, basically. It smells like gasoline, but you tried it, it's actually really smooth.

SPEAKER_04 18:10

Yeah, that's so it's that's probably one of the smoothest batches I've had with that high of an octane. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

I mean, it's and it was high enough octane that Julian could light it on fire.

SPEAKER_04 18:18

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 18:19

So it's it's it's white and blue flames, baby.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

And we had Texas Dan was here too. Yep. And he brought us a couple bottles of the Devil's River that we've been talking about. That we were like the one with agave. Did you try the agave one? Yeah, good.

SPEAKER_05 18:33

They're both so good.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

What was he passing around at the event? Was that the regular one?

SPEAKER_05 18:37

That was the regular one. So we he he brought two bottles of the agave, one for you, one for me.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 18:42

And then he gave us the barrel strength or something there, and then he brought a Texas fifth of the regular Devil's River.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

That's what he was handing around. Yeah, that's the way around what that was.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

I had a cup at 8 a.m.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:58

And it was so good.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

He came over with me with a cup at 8 a.m. and I tried it. I'm like, yep. And he's like, well, that's yours. I'm like, no, you hold on to that. I got stuff to do yet.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

That is a that is a thick ass bottle.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

Texas, baby.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

It's got a booty to it.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Jeez. So the agave's really good. We uh the guy Chad bought his LS for the Camaro from inner inner the agave Devil's River. We've had the regular Devil's River before. There's actually still a bottle over there that Chad and I forgot we had.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

So but now can you only get that from Texas? Like, can't is it in store? I don't know if it's only Texas or just more sound.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

I know we don't have it in stores up here.

SPEAKER_03 19:38

Oh, sure, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

But and then of course, Chad's or Court's got his cooperation. So that's drinking. We're hoping Geyer can join at some point. He's got they have their mission trip coming up in August. So he is Yeah, it's August, right? Yeah, it's right before school starts. Where to? Uh South South America. Um, Peru? No.

SPEAKER_06 20:04

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

What is that? What is that dinosaur flying around your head, Jake?

SPEAKER_03 20:08

So Geyers going to the Amazon for a week.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Yeah, no, it's like Costa Rica. Could be uh I think it's Costa Rica. They'll be they'll be like on the coast, but they're on a mission trip down there. He was talking about that on an episode. Yeah, he's talking about a couple episodes, too. They got a meeting for that tonight, and I know they were get I had to go to get some other stuff, so um hopefully he'll be able to join us soon. Or maybe for the Patreon, we'll see how things go. Have you tried it yet?

SPEAKER_05 20:32

Not yet. That's actually really smooth. Is it? Yeah, but is it sweet? It looks like it would be just a little bit of a sweet note. You would try that last little bit. Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

But he uh he was with us yesterday. He was up all night. Him and Mark stayed up all night. Yeah, that's really cool. That's a good thing. Anybody in the shop chat saw that they were up all night for the uh Relay Iowa Relay Iowa. The guy's always a check station, the overnight midnight check station for their relay across Iowa and had like 6 a.m.

SPEAKER_05 21:04

breakfast and then crashed.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Yep. They had 6 a.m. breakfast and crashed, and we went to breakfast three hours later and no response.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

And then we'll get back to what we did today. Let's go back to what would you guys describe your experience at the Whites Warriors golf outing?

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Oh, brother. Excellent chaos.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Or or do you want to you want to back up 12 hours before and describe your first night hanging with the fellas?

SPEAKER_03 21:35

Yeah, we can start there.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

I I do you don't remember loading a trailer and Zach Zach uh we thought was dead in the in a y a lawn.

SPEAKER_04 21:44

We spent the entire afternoon on autopilot, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

I at a few times, a few times, because you again let's let's just touch the fact that at this moment we were probably closer.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

to 20 six to six so that's twenty-four plus what it was probably three probably at least two or three o'clock at that point so I mean what we're already pushing like twenty nine hours thirty hours up and that's cool um for me when you get closer to like 35 to 40 hours you get to like a delirious state yes they were getting there dude we were at the point right on the edge right on the crispy edge of the trees waving at us um it hadn't happened yet the moment it's like almost your body's like itchy yes like your skin's crawling yes yeah but we didn't get I didn't get a headache that was dope well um on the way to work I'll give some background why we had to go do what we did sure on the way to work Friday I realized tomorrow's a golf outing we're doing this new event at the the golf ball drop where you buy golf balls and then the one the golf balls get dumped from a high a high point and the one that lands closest to the center of the target wins a thousand dollars the second closest one's five hundred dollars so I was what a treat I'm like I gotta get up in the air and do this how am I gonna so I'm thinking scenario I'm like Chappie's got his man left but we gotta get it out there how am I getting it out there we got the snow cat trailer's a big girl she's a big girl we maxed out the capacity of the trailer I checked we we were right at max capacity uh but we were only going four miles that's fine probably um we outmaxed one of the trailer boards but they're like 20 years old and dry so I will have to replace some boards on it but I heard that board pop and I was like oh fuck this is not good the board popped and we got okay yeah that looks like a good spot for it and then I got on and I'm like uh that board that popped is now rubbing the tire and it'll sock clear so Chapman Chappie's like well where's the where's the crossbars at I'm like well there's one right here so we're like okay we'll back it up just a little bit but before we got it that far I'm riding in the basket with Chapman because he came over I couldn't remember which switch because the the controls they're all faded this thing's been out in the sun for 15 years you know I couldn't remember there's one switch you have to flip so that it'll move it'll drive I could get it go the boom to go everywhere and he comes over he goes I heard you're struggling over here and so he gets in he's like you want me just look I'm like sure something right along with him we stood and we're watching the ramps he's watching one side I'm watching go up and also Julian's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what'd you see Julian it's fine the trailer was no longer connected to the truck it was it was five foot above the bed yes and thank goodness that the trailer the back of the trailer the beaver tail of the trailer was dug into the the pavement of the street and it didn't go forward and take out another back window that would have been it actually when you backed up it just right back down onto the wall perfectly but it still wasn't latched or had latched shut yeah so then we had to go back up again and get it up just a little bit Julian opened it up it sat down and then Julian kicked it and it latched then we could get it back up on the trailer.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

And we had done so we before that I had the trailer loaded with a bunch of snow cap parts to go to storage in northern Iowa I just haven't taken up there yet so we had to go take the loaded trailer out to dad's unload it because my skid loader currently has a starter out of it unload everything in their yard come back to town load the man lift up take it out to the golf course or actually we took it out to Chad's we unload it it's parked at Chad's we get this all this run and done we're driving past court's outside I'm like hey that's where Court lives but these guys are like we need food to quote Twister food food oh yeah the last time the words of dusty food the last time we ate was at Bucky's yeah so I had a Casey's you had a rice crispy treat on the bank of the river though yeah that was just sustainability that was just keeping the keeping your uh video game at bay yeah just maintain you know so just to win the best we could I'm like all right we're getting there go past hey that's where Court's at we'll see we'll see him later come back around and I'm like so uh what'd you guys think of your first night hanging up the fellas this is this is a normal night for the fellas I was I was laying on the grass while he was talking about this whole situation where the gooseneck leaves the truck and a board breaks everything we're on the main street in a neighborhood and I just you know I found it peaceful to lay in someone's yard I don't know whose grass that was maybe it was a city I don't know I think it's Chapman's grass that we're well it was really well maintained and it probably had a print of Zach's ass writing in it pretty sure Zach at one point was like it's so soft someone yelled my name and the only thing I remember was just throwing my thumbs up we're like Zach you okay well I've been I'd been checking in on him because he I'm good I think when he starts getting into like a low or anything he starts kind of delirium he starts kind of being like he is when he's also tired like just exhausted sure so I'm like is he exhausted or is he hitting a low I was like are you good?

SPEAKER_01 27:28

He's like yeah I'm good I'm 130 all right cool we're good but just eyeballs are moving barely those that don't know Zach has a defective pain critic it's just not defective it's fucking broke. Broken yeah would be defective so somebody bumped him when he was born and it just broke it and now I gotta buy insulin like the rest of you non noners oh look at us we can produce it on our own must be cool must be cool to not take fucking pig insulin so I what that's where it comes from I did not know that so I say you know this is a normal fellows night and Julian goes oh we can't hang with this Chad was gone at a baseball game yeah at your baseball game like normal uh you were driving back from Marshtown yet Geyer who I had said hey Chapman says that you know how to you know how to make sure everything starts to have you make sure you're there to load it okay yeah no problem I was like we're going to dad's download the trailer I will call you when we come back with the trailer unloaded texted that to him okay I call him as we're coming back to hey where you at oh we went down to the market downtown and and we're just in River and having dinner or ordering dinner.

SPEAKER_04 28:46

I called for help twice and not hey hello or fuck you one.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

Oh well we're coming to town to load the okay well just don't step on the the foot pedal until you're ready to move okay the key's in my cup holder in my car okay where's that? In the driveway at home okay luckily that's just across the street from where the the man lift is but also make sure you take the key out once you put the key in so it doesn't fall out and about that time Julie goes get off the phone and order your food he goes I gotta go it's fine it worked.

SPEAKER_04 29:27

It's fine it's it was it's fine like a casual night for me is like I come home hang out with the kids maybe move a lawn maybe cook dinner depending on what the dinner is of the night you know I cook the proteins and stuff usually and uh put the bed kids to bed and then my wife and I spend like an hour or so you know just getting it watching an episode of our show and then just getting it um then practice making babies and then um just getting it baby practice and then uh yeah we're usually trying to be in bed by like 10 o'clock yeah but we also I also get up like every morning at like 5 a.m so 5 30 for me yeah so and I don't sleep good so I have I have sleep apnea so and even with the CPAP it's it helps significantly but I still don't get great sleep we live in the chemical valley and we are afflicted. Yeah yeah turns out I have a third nipple and sleep. Well yeah nice you ever see the fish with three eyes from the Simpsons?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Yeah there's a lot of those in our river yeah they call it the chemical valley so I guess for those that don't know before we go too much further uh on the Rocks podcast that you guys are from Charleston area of West Virginia New Albans uh yeah Zach and I live in St.

SPEAKER_04 30:51

Albans um and and Adam lives in uh Kenna yeah um it's about an hour from where we're at but Charleston's kind of like the middle ground of sure where everyone is um yeah beautiful area lots of off roading opportunities yeah Zach is a is a barber he owns his own barber shop he's a traveling barber he is a traveling barber I do if I do what I can he's also the midnight barber you can only do so much with that you know Adam Adam's no shit there see if I can get this right without fucking it up Adam is a line uh tech or line design something he works at the Toyota plant in Buffalo and then I am a C 130 crew chief in the Air Force see I can never remember what your position on the plane is a crew chief I'm a crew chief um specifically I'm an ISO doc crew chief but I also go out and do flying crew chief stuff too so being the guard it's a little different than actual active duty but I am active duty in the guard. Because you're you're at the guard every day it's not the weekends yeah I'm what they call an AGR so that's his barbershop um yeah so ISO doc barbershop yeah isodoc barbershop he isodoc being explain what isodoc is uh isochronal inspections so every so many hours the aircraft flies it has to come in and get torn apart everything gets inspected for cracks wear seals components that might be failing they get ops checked to make sure like maybe some of our aerial delivery stuff doesn't get used very often or our mission requirements might not be a component that gets worked much. Sure. So we check it make sure it's still working the way it's supposed to if you do need it it's there ready yeah um paint you know touch it paint or whatever if there's any damage to the aircraft that needs fixed we can put it in a K write up and save it for when it's an isodock and fix it then. Sure. So yeah I'm kind of like uh flight line crew chiefs and anybody that knows what a crew chief is I don't mean this in any disrespectful way because they're both important but a flight line crew chief is more like the service line at a car dealership where they do the general servicing of stuff and then ISO doc is kind of like the Master Techs that are in the back that have the engine and transmission and dashboard ripped out of the car. Right. That's that's kind of more of like what we do is really impressed with it.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Yeah so then but when you're a flight crew chief what what's your responsibility?

SPEAKER_04 33:29

So when I'm doing my like flying crew chief duties it's which we're not we because we're in the guard we don't hold the title as flying crew chief but we perform basically the same thing. We still fly with the aircraft when it goes somewhere. But basically it's I fly with the aircraft when it goes somewhere and just if something breaks I'm there to diagnose and help. You're the onboard mechanic basically the onboard mechanic um obviously there's a lot of things that I'm not going to be able to like fix if a component completely not climbing out in the wing fixing the airline yeah my my job is to make sure that I can diagnose what's going on and give word back home for when they do send another plane with the parts to fix it we're getting the right stuff we're getting the right tools we're getting everything we need to have to fix it and get it back as expedited as possible. Observe and report. Yeah and then obviously there's there's some things that I can do that are like di you know if they're having an an issue with the aircraft that the pilots are questioning I can go up and fix it, adjust it, reset whatever I need to and occasionally throw a band-aid on something. Yeah yeah we don't like to call it that just because they get they get mad about it. I lost I lost my left ear that went in too are you back? Yeah okay um but yeah it's just my basic my basically my job is just to make sure the aircraft's healthy and happy so do you have as in depth of a job description Zach of me?

SPEAKER_03 34:57

Yeah yes I basically are the same as him um uh what I'm actually an in-shop flight mechanic when it comes to hair and where it goes sure um I operate a an arsenal of tools if you will um some of the very sharp arsenal by the way yeah some of them um but maybe bleed yesterday I caused I caused death and dismay upon arrival to the follicles yes to the follicles who are our in special operations bar really never really never undersell though because if this is this is something I've always observed in the past and it's like he kind of undersells his job he's like I'm just a barber I do because I'm humble about it. Yeah who don't know what I'm yeah who are you telling people that you are the barber for I'm sorry oh you can't mention that on you that's a secret yes yes but if you're in the know you know yes and we're gonna leave it at that it's an NDA on that yeah it's not technically but that always let's just leave this yeah people have heard his voice hair barber client confidentiality yeah honestly yeah that's yeah it's just someone more famous than anybody at the table I don't know man it's something to be proud of man I've been really blessed about that I mean I have a uh one of my clients is actually a pitcher for the Red Sox um which is really cool there's a lot of cool people that's not the famous one that's not the famous one I don't know man I've just been really blessed and I have a genuine passion for what I do and um you're right I do undersell it if you want to talk you're welcome to how many haircuts do you do at a day I don't I don't know 12 average at minimum usually so the thing that I've always observed hanging out I've spent a lot of time hanging out in the barber shop you know and and I see that this guy has a different conversation with different people from different walks of life sure 12 times a day.

SPEAKER_04 36:53

And he can relate to all of them pivot relate find a way to compel with it and just like I having the mental capacity uh that's something that like I could never I think that's half of like being a barber or someone in his position. Social chameleon being able to just have a conversation with anybody about anything from any any area of expertise and being able to at least keep the conversation in a flow. And that's I think that's part of why Zach is such a good barber is that getting I mentioned this to him one time is like getting a haircut from a perspective of someone who is a customer and not from someone who is actually the barber themselves it's an experience and he was trying to one of our mutual friends um coworker of mine and a customer of his invited him to what was it the their um baby shower or something that's definitely yeah and he was like I just don't know why anybody would I feel like that's that might be kind of weird and I said well you gotta understand is like from a customer's perspective you're establishing a relationship with this person that you talk about personal things in your life that you might not talk to somebody else about because there's a level of comfort and intimacy when this someone's rubbing your head this person's cutting your hair this person this person's you know like a haircut can be a really big deal to some people and you're you're you're trusting this person with you know that that um that level of intimacy that's like important to you and you're you're having conversations with this person at least once a month and this can stretch on for years and you establish a relationship with this person whether it feels to you like it's not point I'm pointing at Zach when it feels like to him it might not be because he has a dozen of these conversations a day you know seven days or five days a week four days a week this might be the different piece about it though because it does like I am really I am truly compassionate about like the people I get to see and that's not like a you know a hot air topic it's just that's just I genuinely am I I you're a very genuine person Zach. You actually do care I gotta get my head through the door.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

You actually care about the conversations you're having that's what makes you such a good partner get back you're that helmet you gotta come you might want to get a size bigger fucking Amazon.

SPEAKER_03 39:17

But I I oh we say that all the time I really appreciate you and the kind words I appreciate you saying that I don't do well in regards to explaining what I do um Zach doesn't sauce himself at all I I just okay very modest can I explain it though for a half a second because I'll keep it real short on that but I I because I I think the majority of the people that I I try to keep in my corner or or prefer to s surround myself with um kind of all hit the same note on this is just like brother I'm just I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing and um I'm not going to work I'm having a blast I am blessed enough to be able to do this and get paid and provide in this economy and you know the you've you've worked very hard to get where you're at with owning your own barbershop too yes because you didn't yes you didn't leave high school saying you're gonna be a barber right no I've done a lot of things and I don't mean a little bit tell them what you did before you were a barber no what this is the one that always gets everybody's a male stripper yeah yeah chipping back no I'm just kidding um uh initially out of school what did I do right out of high school uh initially quick rip through to today initially out of high school I graduated I did go to um Fairmont State University which is um Fairmont State it's essentially Morgantown south of Morgantown it's a smaller state university than WVU um I was initially from Fairmont that's where I was born so huge Italian family there um I went and I did that for one semester did really well I went on an academic scholarship um when I left there I had a 3.7 I just didn't like it and everyone around me decided that they just wanted a party and I just wasn't really my thing. I grew up in a military house and and uh you know a police house so we just had different rules and expectations it is what it is and I think that a lot of that was a core value so I just decided I didn't like that after watching all my friends kind of fall off and fall away because I continued to refuse to just like I had a job to do and it was like you know I mean this was I was supposed to be here to do my job I I they paid me to go do this or however however you want to toss it but I mean it wasn't coming out of my pocket and were my parents either way at the end of it I had decent grades I just didn't like what I was doing I minored in elementary education and majored in criminal justice came to the realization after a little bit of and and please understand that this is no disrespect this is a direction of my own life and what I wanted for myself after a little bit of uh reflection and understanding elementary education probably could take you could have taken me somewhere at that point but we're also talking 2005 so it wasn't really much money in West Virginia in regards to education system for educators themselves pushing forward criminal justice I watched my dad work for the state of West Virginia make $24,000 a year do I need to say anything more right um I did step into the position I I left the university I stepped into a position with the idea of attempting to go to the state police gathering. I made it I made it all the way through to Charleston police and I made it through to state police I had tattoos came back to the point where at this point uh 2007 I was not able to join either one of those departments because of the tattoos on my arms that was forbidden everything was still uniform.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

It was a different time different time yeah than you could think now.

SPEAKER_03 43:17

So there you you were not allowed to have tattoos visible it could be a t-shirt or underneath but nothing visible. So I made it all the way through the entirety of the process there were 732 applicants I made it to the final 13 and got X'd because of tattoos on my arm that my dad definitely told me not to get it's kind of shitty that they let you get that far before that far we typically know this might be a problem.

SPEAKER_04 43:40

Well back then I agree with you back then there were still a couple of city organizations that would let you attack cities small like small city would like the s the sheriffs and and states wouldn't usually do it back then. Now they don't care at all.

SPEAKER_03 43:51

Yeah. There's also a piece to that that my dad was the a trainer at the academy for defense Tactics and firearms training. Yeah. Not gonna say that he kind of had a piece in me not getting there. I'm just saying I didn't get there. Either way, X'd on that one and went to Charleston. I didn't live there. I went to Charleston and there was myself and one other gentleman that made it through the whole process. There were only 32 applicants, but there were a final two. Both of us had sleeve tattoos. I have a skull on my tattoo, and chair broke. He had military. Um he was a veteran. I was not. They went with the veteran option, although, and that's fine. Fixed. So build a chair over there? The chair fell apart. I pressed on and went in towards the coal mining industry because mind you, this is now 2007, West Virginia. Um, we are a Mecca for metallurgical coal sales in regards to hardox steel, and we still had steam coal going, but steam coal was irrelevant. And you were talking right now, uh, price per barrel was at that moment pushing 118, 120. So price per ton on metallurgical coal was $305 on top. So we were typically pulling out um 18 to 21 ton. So I worked underground. I was an underground coal miner. I I was a roof bolter, did that for six years, loved it. It was an incredible life. The amount of money that they gave me as a kid to do that job was astronomically stupid. And I was blessed enough to do that career and make it out of there without losing any of my fingers, toes, or my life. And I did unfortunately see that happen a lot. There was a lot going on there. But I was blessed enough to be with a crew of gentlemen that were older and have been there 20, 30 years, and I didn't have the pill pandemic that people have heard or talked about on Netflix. There's a lot of that in regards to the I wasn't in that world, I was in the world previous to that pandemic or the epidemic, however you want to say.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

Pride in your job world.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

Correct. Yeah, I but I was blessed enough to be there at that at that time when those guys were still there. So we our mind shut down in 2012, 2013, completely shut down. X coal, uh West Virginia was no longer a coal state, if you will. Still steam coal, but metallurgical was being transferred in other states, more so Kentucky. I was slightly in Pennsylvania, and then we're pushing more fracking oil and gas. I'll leave from there and well, blessed enough to get out and all the things and still have some dignity. I wanted to go to the military. I was never allowed to go to the military because of type 1 diabetes. Um, it is controlled for the most part. Sometimes I run a little wild, you know, when we're on wild weekend trips, but it's intentional to try to save face for a low. Either way, I wasn't able to join military. Um because of that, you can't do that. I reached out to a gentleman that was in Bagram, um, was type one, so I had a slight bit of hope right here. So I'm the only person in my entire lineage that's not military. Um your brother works with a unit.

SPEAKER_04 47:20

Your dad was a retired security forces commander.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

My great-grandfather was a was uh uh Air Force pilot. My dad was a multitude of fucking things, but yeah, um my brother's still there. Either way, I was the only person that didn't make it. So I reached out, I found the gentleman that was diagnosed already, and he was actively deployed in Bogram. So this was what 2007. Yeah, okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 47:47

Because I was there with him.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

Thank you. Yeah, so turns out after having the conversation, understanding, I tried to get a letter of recommendation, etc. etc. You can't do that. I tried every branch and then kind of pressed into the fact that this gentleman is actively deployed. However, that only works in the fact that he was actually diagnosed on deployment, which is kind of wild. But I think that had a lot to do with the chemicals and things. So now I'm 21 and have not a full clue of what I'm gonna do yet. And my first child is born. So now I've got to figure out a solution, right? Now we've got some real stuff to understand. So that's a long push forward. So there for a minute, I I attempted to work at a jail uh for the Department of Corrections. That was miserable. I fucking hated it. That's not cool. I ended up being on um uh the extract team, so I was on we did cell extractions and that sucked. Search and seizures and all the things. And I got to the point where it was fun. I did it for a year and a half. Uh watched one of my teammates shoot a dude in the forehead for you know, out of spite, not being that's not cool. And then uh my supervisor, I actively caught him in a search seizure providing contraband. I won't get any farther than that, it's irrelevant. But it was one of those moments where I all the discipline and all the integrity that I thought was with the position, and it was a state-level job. So understand that at that moment I'm receiving a state a state wage, it was pretty shitty, but it was a state wage with state benefits, which would afford insurance and pension and stuff for providing for your family. Correct, thank you. So after I call and the loss of integrity and all the things occurred, I fucked fuck this, I'm out, I can't do this. Tried the car sales. I don't like lying to people. It's kind of shitty. And I'm not like if you sell cars, I'm not I'm not saying it's everybody, it's not it's not all of them.

SPEAKER_01 49:56

But sometimes the sales guy doesn't know what the service department did or or where sometimes it's just what they're told to do from you know, you're you're given, hey, this is what this car is, and I get it.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

But I I couldn't do that, so I was losing money for the I was losing money for the dealership because like if you needed something, bro, let's fucking get it. Yeah, like what can I do to help you get that? I thought that's what we were supposed to do.

SPEAKER_04 50:17

When I worked in this, uh I was a service writer for a while. I thought that's what we were supposed to do. I thought we were supposed to help people need you because you would promise things that I can't deliver.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

No, no, no. I didn't I never promise things because that came off to me as lack of integrity or a lie.

SPEAKER_04 50:30

You as a car salesman, like no, for sure. I'm with you on that, bro. They'll promise things and then then people show up and like hear from my free oil change. I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_03 50:38

No. That's so real. So I that I that lasted about three months. No shit, three months. And uh they flat out told me, like, look, look, man, if you're not selling cars, you gotta get out of here. And I'm like, I am selling cars. And you're like, Yeah, but we're losing money. They're about to give it up, sold a lot of cars. They're like, right, but you're giving away and we're losing money.

SPEAKER_04 50:56

So you give me two cars and you never once referred to your your salesman too. He did not approve this.

SPEAKER_03 51:01

Hey, you said like this, look, what do you want to buy it for? Hell yeah, brother. Same. I want you to buy it for that too. Let's do that. Straight to finance, baby. Never understood the idea at that at that age and time of profit, loss, and business, you know, I don't know business model. You want to come? You want a car and I'm supposed to sell it to you? Fuck yeah, let's shake hands, have a nice day. I got one. How how'd you end up deciding to go barber? So after I had done all of that, I went back into the mines because I was real good at it. But I went back this time into a plant operating position. So I essentially worked with the processing, the processing of the plant, processing of coal, cleaning. I actually got an opportunity to be in the fab shop, and we created all the catwalks and uh all the screens for rock crushers, etc. etc. Right? A lot of welding, a lot of stuff. The guy, my mentor, his name was Squeak. He was 82 years old and just just salt of the earth, man. But rest in pieces, but he taught me everything that I knew at that time, and the only thing that there was available was like stick welding. I mean, that's all we had at the shop. But it was West Virginia's uh most advanced coal plant. So it was like the nicest, newest facility in the state. It was located in Greenbrier County, super cool, uh, except for the fact that it was owned and ran by Jim Justice. That dude sucks on my mama, and he didn't pay paychecks, so you would not get a paycheck for you know two or three times in a row, and let's just be real, that doesn't work, right? And couldn't do that. I mean, this was this was company wide, it was just small, small town bullshit. So he's also the guy that owns the the green bar. So also a senator or whatever. Either way, it sucks. So after all of those things, okay, that coal plant shut down, and this brings me to today. So thanks for listening to the bullshit. At that moment, I have two children that I am raising by myself. I won't get into that whole story. It's just I that is not a story for radio. It was myself and my daughter and my son. So at this point, fast forward, I've now had two children. My son is now three, my daughter is one. Um, I say that, but they are also it's 15 months apart. So let's, you know, close age, very close age cap. So it's just myself and both of my kids, and I didn't really have any help because my parents were not where I was at. We we were living in different ends of the state. Right. So how do you do that? How do you how do you raise your children? How do you because I still have to work 12 hours. I can't be on this, I can't, there's no there's no there's no minimum. So if if I go on to state, what do you call that? Snap, all this stuff. I don't know. Like where they give you the EBT stuff. Yep. I'm sorry, I'm just I'm a little ignorant on that. I wasn't able to do that because if I did do that, that meant that I didn't have I wasn't able to provide. So it was a it was either choose this lifestyle and just suck on the tit of the state, or do be a fucking man and make something for your kids that have already been through enough shit. So I went back to the state and they had an option there in the workforce that was essentially job retrain. I was eligible for that because of the amount of time and years that I had placed in the career that I'd chosen, which was the coal industry. And I had I had over the years worked my way through. I I had been on a strip mine, I drove Euclids, I drove um 190s, I drove 930Es. Uh I don't know if you guys know what those are. It's a Komatsu 930E, is the largest rock truck in the world. Third now, by the way. Fuck China. But yeah, they had to they always gotta be building bigger shit.

SPEAKER_04 55:16

They come out with wild um trucks.

SPEAKER_03 55:18

I did that, I did those for a while. I didn't work on, I did work around the electric shovel, the Busyrus 475. That was super cool, super cool experienced. After a little while, I did I did spend a little bit of time in a D12, which is um if you guys haven't seen a D12 in person, it's like you can you can make a D6 or a D8, sometimes a D10 kind of look like a fucking toy that you put on your kitchen table with a D12. I had a ripper, I had all the things, so I was cut I was pulling and cutting everything for the shot. Either way, pressing on, I went through all that. I already already heard about my underground, you already heard about my plant story. So initially, in the whole idea of the coal industry that I had established myself in, I was trying to start and have a piece for every single aspect of the industry so that I could build a career. Because let's be real, I know that you guys aren't from the East Coast, I know you guys aren't from West Virginia and coal country per se. But if you wanted to be a millionaire or have some notoriety or respect on your name or your family, if you went into that industry and you did what you were supposed to do, you would be able to provide for your family and you would easily become a millionaire well into your 30s. I'm talking, guys, we're talking about I'm in my low 20s and I'm making over $116,000 a year in the early 2000s.

SPEAKER_06 56:42

That's a lot of money.

SPEAKER_03 56:43

It's a livable wage, boys. Oh, yeah. Four times what I was making at that time. Do you see what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong now. I mean, the the shit that sacrifice that comes with that is horseshit. Right. But at that age, come on. We absolutely I'm 39, we're all in that same category-ish. So, like, are you gonna say no or are you just gonna put your head down? Right. I probably would have kept going. Fuck yeah. Until they kill you. Yeah. Let's be real. Let's miss it's just a reality. Yep. So blessed enough to back to the back to the workforce. Okay, that's that's the cap for all of this. I come to the workforce, they offer because of the experience and the time that I had in the industry, they offer a pamphlet with a book, and you essentially just go through and pick a job. They have uh workforce relocation, they'll retrain you and give you a new skill set per se. But it does have to be a skill set hands-on. So I didn't know that barbering was a thing. I didn't know how you did that. I didn't know that that was even something that you could do. I thought you just I don't fucking know. You you just are a barber or you're not. I don't know how that works. But I never heard of anyone going to school for barbering, and I didn't know that how you became one. Either way, I'm going through and I'd already picked high what was it, what's it called, Julian? When you Highline see it, it was CW Wright, was who I was going with or who I was going for. It's like electric high lines, but they travel and do oh, high tension lines. Okay, thank you. Yeah, right. So that was the only option that I knew because it matched the income wage um in regards to the coal.

SPEAKER_04 58:13

Also, an incredibly dangerous job. I almost went into that myself.

SPEAKER_03 58:16

Yeah, I didn't know anything about it. I just knew what the pay was and what I could afford for my kids. It seems like all the really good paying jobs are stupid dangerous, they're extremely stupid dangerous, especially where we're from because education is a is a minor, hard work is a major. So you either have one or you and that's not disrespect. Hold me out.

SPEAKER_04 58:32

It's easier to hire ego where we're from than it is education. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 58:35

Thank you. Yeah, it is, and you make more money, yeah. So essentially the idea was I went to do this, I grabbed the job for CW Wright, and that essentially meant that I was gonna climb high lines and work on electrician, work on polls, I guess. I don't know. I don't know, I never made it there, bud, because they told me I was going to Washington, and Washington was only three hours away, Washington PA, right? Yeah, well, I was about Washington State, yeah. They fucking meant Washington State, and my dumbass has never left Nicholas County, West Virginia. I had not seen anything outside of the border of West Virginia my entirety of my life. Maybe Myrtle Beach once. Right. Like, so um, guess who can't leave? Guess who can't leave their toddlers?

SPEAKER_04 59:18

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:19

So that asked that.

SPEAKER_04 59:20

Well, at this time you were uh single dad, too. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 59:23

Single dad, completely no you had custody of the kids, no relationships or anything.

SPEAKER_04 59:27

Did you have custody of the kids at this time?

SPEAKER_03 59:29

Um at that moment I did, yeah. Yeah, so still you know, in the process, but yes, it was active. So barber. I know basically because I was like, Oh, that's fucking cool. Barber, let's try it. So, not only did I get the opportunity to choose that, I it sounded cool. I remember being a kid going to the barbershop. I think we all do. You know, being in the barber shop when you were a kid was pretty sick. You go in, they got Andy Griffith on the television, you get a sucker or a piece of shitty bubblegum that's always stale for some reason. But it was the bubble yum or the bubble gum, like in the shitty yellow wrapper with the blue twisty ends.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:05

Are you talking about um what's his name? Matt? Are you talking about Matt right now? No, no, you know which one I'm talking about. Yeah. Because you literally just described his entire fucking MO. No Katie Griffith, bubblegum out front.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:19

No, I literally didn't know that. That's just how all the barbershop. You know which one I'm talking about, though, right? Matt down there at the intersection by BB. Yeah. Great dude. I like the guy. But like that was all the barbershops when we were kids. That was it. It was it was one or the other. There might have been a deer skull that your dad or your granddad killed. Right. But I always remember going back to that. It was Bill and Royal's barbershop. You tell me it wasn't some dude's name. That's it. It was always some dude's name that you went and got your hair cut from. So Bill and Royal, and they always looked clean as fuck, like they always were dressed so well. And no one was ever mad when they were there, right? They're always chill. Right. They're always in a good mood. Yeah. Sounds great. So let's try this out. I don't know what I don't know what kind of money it is, but like everybody's happy. It seems like a good idea. So then they told me that they were going to send me to school and pay for the entirety of the school. So I got to go, I got to get paid to go. Mind you, the fact that this means that I'm now having to pay for child care because my kids aren't old enough to go to school yet. So I'm paying for child care on top of driving an hour and 45 minutes to school and then back on the turnpike every single day. So I'm racking up easily 110 miles a day. You're paying tolls. And paying tolls and daycare. Because this was probably before Easy Pass was really Yes, it was that wasn't yet before it was affordable.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:37

I think they had it, but it's really it was basically a convenience thing instead of now it's you buy the easy pass and it pays for the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

No, it's convenient for them.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:48

It's cheaper to buy the easy pass back then it wasn't. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:51

I can tell you this, and this will I'll probably wrap this whole up in the next three minutes. I was at a point in my life where all I was trying to do was survive. I was trying to ensure that my kids had a good role model and someone to protect and love them. I was God, I fuck you for bringing this up. Um I if you said how I became a barber. Yeah, but this is all in this is all in casing because it's the reality of just who I am.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:15

It all comes full circle.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

Um This is really hard to get through. So I'm not gonna give I'm not doing that. I just it's really hard to get through because it's I know it. Either way, there's a lot of trauma there. There was a lot of there was a point through there for about I don't know, eight months, nine months that I couldn't even afford a pack of cigarettes, and this was when they were three dollars and nineteen cents a pack, essentially, right? Um borrowing gas money. I can't tell you the amount of times that I went to a Go Mart and wrote a bag check. No. I I shit you not. I would go to Go Mart in the mornings because they would still take checks. I would write a check knowing I didn't have any fucking money in my bank account. But I would write a check for $32 to fill up the car that I had, and it would get me that $32 would get me at least to the next day that the state would drop money into my account. That it was just enough money for me to buy the Totino's pizzas for myself and the fucking kids and fill the gas tank up one more time to get to the next Thursday. Um so I did that. You good? Yeah, I did that for 12, 13 months. I did too. Like I did it for 13 months. I'm not saying that it was easy. There wasn't a plan B. There wasn't another option. So what I had was the opportunity that I was given and the chance to just do something good here. So I went to work and guys, I I promise you I would I love you and I respect each one of you. I I promise you I'd work your fucking asses in the dirt. I I'd outwork any of you. I'm hungry. I can't I can't lose because it's not an option. Right. It's just it's not the option because everything disappears.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

Yep. Well you've you've you've been in that position of being hungry that I've never been in. I've never been to the point in my life where I've been I've had something so important at that point in my life that I had to be like work hungry to make money.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:26

I lived in the apartment that I was living in at that time during school. I the only thing that we owned was uh we owned uh a queen mattress and both of the kids slept on it. I slept on the floor and uh oh, we had a TV with some VCR tapes, and I just you know if you ask them about it, they had the time of their life. Right. They're great fucking kids, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

But you're mate, you made sure that that's a good paranoid. I don't have a choice, bro. Well, you're right, you didn't, but there's people that say, well, I don't have a choice, but people make excuses. They make excuses. You didn't. You like you said, you kept your head down and you're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:03

I'll end it on this.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:05

I'm fucking proud of you, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:06

I'll end I'll end it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:08

I'll end it on this because you don't know who I am. I'll end it on this, okay? I genuinely when I have conversations with people about what I do, I'm so fucking compassionate about what I do because it afforded me and other people in the chair that's in front of me, right? Eric Pressure Holy shit, it afforded me the opportunity to learn in depth from people that have more experience, more intuition, and more gumption than I thought that I had. So I got hungry enough to the point where I would have a conversation with you, but I wasn't having a conversation with you, I was learning the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:51

Because if there was something in that conversation that you said that you struggled with that I could learn from so that I could skip that step, sure, I ate it the fuck up and you didn't. Even know about it. And I would have that conversation with you, and then I would have I would partake that conversation to court and I would have a conversation with court. And if he added something to that, I could compile a list of things that you gentlemen taught me without even realizing it. I was just I was just cutting your hair.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:23

No, brother. I was eating it the fuck up.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:26

Good song, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:26

It is a good song. What I can tell you at this moment. I've been blessed enough with a network that touches the White House. It touches the center of our government, state government. It touches every aspect of his job and his entire superiority.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:46

All the way to the state. Most of my bosses and co-workers, they're a barber.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:51

This is not a flex. I'm telling you what the fuck I earned. Right. Because I did it. I did it to earn it. I walked in that building not being able to afford a pack of cigarettes. And I'm sitting in front of you today 12 hours from my house, and I'm just blowing fucking money, dog. Nobody in my house is hungry.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:12

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:12

Fuck that.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:13

I can say this because I know he won't and he doesn't need to. He is probably one of the highest paid barbers in the state of West Virginia. Should be. Yeah. And it's because he has clientele kicking down the door to try to get an appointment. It's hard for me as his brother to get an appointment. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

But understand, please. I'm not. I'm proud of what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:40

Now you're making me feel bad because he's cut my hair twice for free. Oh no. I mean, it's and drove to see me.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

Do you know how blessed I am to be able to do that? I don't fucking care. You know how blessed I am that you did it. I love that, bro. I'm grateful and I'm humbled and I'm so thankful for the opportunity to. Because on the backside, somebody gave me 150 fucking dollars to do theirs. Right. Yeah. For not for 30 bucks charge.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:03

It's okay. You shaved a baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:05

That's a wild story. We've for $700.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:08

We talked about on here before.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:09

Oh, we talked about you talked about yours.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:11

Yeah, you talked about it and yours, and I think we talked about when you were on for Zach's episode. I made you tell that story.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:19

The baby shaving.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:20

I've got guys, I've cut people's hair all over the world. I have I have two clients from Qatar. Yeah, you do. I have UK clients, I have clients from Cyprus.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:29

One of them was a repeat. He came back in, yeah. He came back in town again, and he at that point, I think you the second time he came back, you weren't at Bully Trap anymore. Correct. Instead of going to Bully Trap at the bottom of the hill from our base, he took the drive to set all the to go back to the same guy that cut his hair last week.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:49

When I'm saying Qatar, I'm not talking about like just people that are here on school. No, they were they're Qatari military. No, they're Qatari and they're here for the World Cup training. Yeah, they're here for training for stuff. Special training and it's just like I'm so fucked. I'm proud to say this because I can scream it. I'm so fucking blessed. I don't care. I'm having a ball. I will live the entirety of my life enjoying every fucking moment of it. And like, let's be real, because let's I mean, if life is fragile and it can disappear at any moment. I'm type one diabetic, so I'm guaranteed right off the bat, regardless, I'm not speaking negativity here, guys. I'm guaranteed in reality, off the bat, I'm probably not gonna see 80. There's just that's just not a reality, and I'm doing everything I can on my end to hold it down, right? But let's just be real.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:35

But that's a good attitude to have that. It eats you alive, bro. Let's just be real. You're gonna live every day to the fullest. I live every fucking day to the fullest, bro, and I don't hesitate. And I don't I would love to say that I do that, and I like to think I try to do that, but I don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:48

Oh, listen, my wife, she can't Abby probably I drive her insane.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:52

But what I can tell you is I probably Abby and I have had private conversations before without him around, and she's like, yo, can you make him chill a little bit? And I'm like, and I'm like, Abigailia, I can't do fuck all to make that man chill because he will fight me back with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:09

My biggest thing is that like this, guys, I don't have the ample opportunity to go. I don't think that I'm gonna see an SSI or fucking, I'm a retirement age that I'm we're all just pissing around. But what I will tell you is I'll die for each and every one of you or your kids. You think that I won't take your daughter and hold her away from the world? Yeah, but absolutely okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:34

You don't want to retire. No, I will never. You love your job. Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:37

It's stupid fun. I don't even go to work. He's in a job that you don't need to retire from.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:40

Half the time I'll run into him, he's fucking off at work and he doesn't even have clients. And he's still like, yeah, I'm I'll I'll be there. I'm just, you know, clean it up. He takes pride. The reason he is successful with everything tied up in a nice, neat, pretty bow, the reason he's successful is because he cares about what he's doing. Right. He genuinely takes pride in his work. He actually gives a shit about the people that he's talking to and the people that are in his chair. A lot of barbers that I've experienced in my life, and I'm always going to speak for myself, a lot of the barbers I've met in my life, you tell them what kind of haircut you want, and they do whatever the fuck they want to do. When I tell him what kind of haircut he wants or I want, I'll sit down in his chair and he asks me. He's like, I also do whatever the fuck I want. He asked me, he's like, What do you want? How many of us show a hands, and I'm pretty sure everyone will put their hands up, show of hands. When you sit down in the chair, the barber's like, So what do you want? Right? Yeah, you get fucked up. Right. They say that the same old shit I've done for him. And then and then you tell them, and then you tell them what you want, and they start cutting your hair, right? So he does not do that. He says, So what are we doing today? Yeah. And you tell him, and he and he fires back with, okay. Well, he fires back with, okay. I like that. What if we did just a little bit, instead of doing a low fade, we do a mid fade and see how that looks this time. And you know, it it and he he gives feedback with his experience and knowledge on it, and that's something that a lot of barbers don't do. And the reason he does it is because he genuinely cares about the person sitting in his chair, not just the dollars that are in his their pocket, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:16

That's why I get like I get all the wedding haircuts, the graduation haircuts, the whatever. Even if you just come one time and that's I don't care. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:24

My wedding haircut, but like you guys have ever seen my wedding haircuts. It's but like someone's gonna have to get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:30

But someone's gonna ask you who did it. And if you're gonna speak on my name, it's gonna be in it's gonna be in grace, not in dirt.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

So to that same respect, that's that's self-respect. I have yeah, well, that's one of the things I have right now with what I'm doing is why I'm looking at how do I start doing it where I have all the control. Yes, because oh, if it's going out there, it's because I'm the person I'm the face they've talked to. Yeah, hey Zach, how's it going? So if they go out there and they're on a trail and shit breaks, it's not I know whoever was in the shop that put it together. It's well, Chris taught I talked to Chris. Chris did the, you know, and right now I don't have that all that control. I tell you, man. And I don't like that. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:17

A lot of people aren't willing to take it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:19

My reputation hangs in the balance of other people. Yeah, and I've come to realize that and it really bothers me. Well, you guys opened me up, and that pissed me.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:28

I think you've built a fantastic reputation for yourself, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:30

And that's why I want to and I want to do I love off-road, but I love the hot rods almost more because in the rat rods, there's no rules.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:40

No, it's the creativity, yes, and I watched I watched a video the other day, and it was Rudy Wetzel. Yep. Um, I watched his video of his rat rod that he has, and he broke it when he was at the thing. Yeah, he had the button in his pocket, he sat down and hit the button, and the hydraulics pulled too far past where they should have been because he didn't have a stop in it, and it broke the coil over. And he immediately was like, Yeah, I fucked up. I didn't think that would happen. That was crazy. And it's like you look at the setup when he fixed it, and you look at the setup and how it functions, and it's like your first thought is that's stupid. Why are you using a hydraulic ram to raise and lower this thing? Just use airbags like everybody else. Right. But then as you're thinking that thought, he says, on air, I well, you know, I built the setup because I wanted it to be different. Yeah. And it's like, that's why like what you're saying, hot rods are so cool because you're not doing it because it's, you know, I want to fit in. You're doing it because it's like, ah, well, I wanted something cool, and I had this fucking wrench laying over here, and it's shitty, and I never use it. So I decided to cut it off and use it as my gear shifter.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:52

I have like, you know, so that the the gear shifter in in Icky is one of my wrenches that went through the fire.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:59

Shut up. I didn't know that. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:01

The one of the the one of the if I don't know if you saw it when he had the hood up.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:06

The wrench holding the battery box up.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:08

I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

That's another wrench that went through the fire.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:11

If you look at my trunk, there's a bunch of wrenches like holding certain like brackets, all the brackets of the hood are wrenches that were from the fire.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:18

Icky is more icky is more of an HTG custom than my 50 is. Because I built the 50 before HTG was ever a thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:26

Rat rods are story builds. Rat rods aren't skill builds. It's that's why something like that. You're not building it because you're good at building shit, you're building it because everything has a story behind it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

That's also why the Scout is the way it is, because I wanted it unique. I had a G I had a very well-built CJ. Well, it was a YJ with CJ tub, axles linked, and I was ready to take the four-liter out and ls it, and I went and this was it's starting to slow a little bit, but this is it was probably about the same time you made your video slapping the duck off with with the trim panel. And it was for the same reasons. It's like I love Jeeps, yeah, but Jeeps have become, and I've said this so many times, I'm not gonna get into it anymore, then Jeeps have become what Harley's were Harleys were in the early 2000s.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:22

Yeah, oh yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:24

You're you gotta you want back then they wanted they wanted to feel like they were a hell's angel, but not be a hell's angel. Nowadays they want to look and act like they're a big overlander off-road or whatever. Did you just but you just hit JK's with Hells Angels?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:40

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:41

Well, look yeah. Well, it's Weenie Hutt Jr. Hell's Angels, but I know Eevee, I know Eevee.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:46

But but Weenie Hutt General or Mafia. Yeah, and that's why I said, I'm doing it, I'm doing a scout. Yeah, sure. I grew up, my my mom drove a scout, my dad had a scout. Sure. He drove a uh square body showy to to work, so that's why those are special to me, and that's why I have those. Um and he was a huge that's why that's why I've got thrillers sitting on the shelf that don't run. Yeah, because I can look at them and I remember my childhood.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:13

I tell you what, and they will run eventually. We know a guy that can completely rebuild those back to back to factory stock. I don't mean a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:21

I said this about the scout one time, and I don't I don't know if you ever told you this or if you've ever heard the story, but I was talking to a friend of mine, we were at the ranch, and I was like, Yeah, I was like, our buddy has this scout, and I was like, and it's it's cool, it's kind of just a recipe build, it's a JK frame, and it's you know, three-link front, four-link rear, coilovers, ls, you know, it's kind of just like the basic recipe of building a rock crawler on 43s. But the cool thing about it is it's like, and I told and I told him this, I was like, it's it's it's not cool because it's you know a scout build. It's cool because it has a story. That thing burned to the ground, and he put it back together and revived it again because it was a I'm not giving up on this fucking thing. Yeah. Yeah. And it was makes it way cooler. And then and then after I hear more about the story over the last, you know, four years of your life and and you guys, it's like it all ties together in a nice pretty bow of this story of a person who was met with some of the hardest challenges mentally to deal with losing your garage, losing it again, losing your child, fixing this thing, building it back up, finding yourself again, getting back up on your feet, and then continuing on with your life with a purpose and continuing on with your life with a voice of uh of um I I can't find the words for it right now, but uh something important. Instead of just existing and building something for this, now it now it means something. And the story behind behind the scout is what makes it so fucking cool. And it's like, yeah, you know, obviously it's got cool shit, it's got summit links on it, and it's got 43s, and it's got all this cool shit, but it's like you know, nowadays in our off-road community, that's that's just a recipe. That's a recipe. Yeah, and it's how deep your pockets are, can you know, you can have the recipe, but you know no matter how deep your pocket is, having that story and having that story with that kind of emotion behind it, yeah, is not something that can be matched, and that's what makes it so cool, is it's kind of like the scout in my mind, and I'm sorry if this is too personal, but I'm gonna say it anyways. The scout in my mind was like when what happened with Wyatt was a rise from the ashes story for you to get out of the dark times and get back into your life again and live it for him instead of like what some people do, they let it, they let it that was their lives continue in darkness.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:08

That was version two of the scout. Yeah, version one was built before Wyatt I Lost Wyatt. Yeah, that picture right there, that's the last time Wyatt rode with me. Yep. If you go back, I don't I don't think they act, I don't think they put it in. They put part of the footage in that's core one. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:29

And that was version one, that was the one that got finished on the trailer. On the trailer.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:33

Actually, it's perfectly fine. Pretty close. And actually, um I have a I have a box of goodies for you guys here, and oh, those aren't so if you look at our Oh, that's not those are drugs.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:48

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:51

There's a there's a there's a picture that I thought it was on the magnet I'm gonna give you, but it's not. But there's a picture of us standing on the scout on the trailer with the scout, and that was the defining moment of we made it. You know, and and two weeks before that I had sent a text to the guys. I'm like, hey, I don't like the way the body looks on here, so I'm cutting the floor out, lowering it two inches. And Geyer lost his mind. And you can I wish he was sitting here.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:20

Do you have a tendency of doing shit like that?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:22

I I have a very big M of no, no, you can't do that. Don't push it off to the last minute. If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done around here.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:32

That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:32

Um, we need that, and that's why I'm so calm, cool, and chill right now when Court's like, mine's not Moko's not gonna be at at Ricky's event. Oh, Moco ain't isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:42

Well, there's a fair chance that it could.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:44

Oh, I guarantee you it is. Chad's got the picture right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:46

Oh, that's incredible, bro. It's 3 30 in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:49

3 30 in the morning.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:50

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

I had to get back up at 6 or 5 30 to be on the road by 6 with it loaded to go to work because everybody was coming for core. The event that I wanted to start that took me four years to get rich to even let me do it.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:05

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:06

Um, but that was day one of core. Or no, day two. That's day one, because that's at at Thomas.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:16

I was first yeah I was.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:17

You weren't there, that's right. But Kyle Ming, you guys know Kyle. Yeah, yeah. He was Minge. Yes, Minge. He was he was flying drone and flew over us.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:27

Oh, that's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:28

And as he comes over us, Wyatt looks up, smiles, and flies the bird at him.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:33

Oh, bro. That's perfect.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:35

And I have that raw footage, and it's hard for me to watch it just like when you were sitting there, it's hard for you to talk about that time. Yeah, that's a time that sometimes it's a high and sometimes it's the lowest low, but you can't not experience those. You can't not let yourself feel those. I haven't been back to that that trail, that property since quite almost four years now. Because I just haven't been ready. Ran the scope that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:07

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:08

Did I had to change it somehow? In that picture, that was just get it done with the basic cage, and then I had all the cage. Yeah. Lost wife. That's why there's the the smiling guy with the fingers in the back of the cage.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:20

It's it's funny you mentioned that. I didn't know that was a thing until yesterday. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've done that for years. It's like my way of saying hi.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:30

It's yeah, you will you get a you get a backwards or a frontwards?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:33

And when I heard that yesterday, I choked. They're interchangeable. Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:38

Annie had you. That's why she kind of disappeared from behind me when I was talking about because it's hard for, you know, yeah, oh yeah. And I stood up at Wyatt's funeral and read a poem that I it's in that book behind you that my dad has always said, and it's about loss and and people that come in and out of your lives. Sure. It's called Bits and Pieces. And it's it's a heavy, it's a heavy poem. And and Andrew's like, Are you? I said I want to do it. And she goes, Are you sure?

unknown 1:24:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:07

Are you sure? And I said, Yeah, I'm sure. There was one, and I've never told anybody this. And there's I don't know why this is just spilling out right now. Maybe it's because you guys it's the right weekend for it. You guys came into our lives at the right moment that I needed it. And Adam's the one to thank for that. Because Adam reached out me, and we'll take we can talk about that in a minute. But I never want anybody to have to watch that lid close on somebody they love. Let alone your son. And know that you're never gonna see his face again. You'll see it in the pictures, but that's not the same. And I watched that close. I made Izzy and Annie leaf, and I was the last one, because they had like a private viewing area that we closed at the at the um what is that? It was an event center there. It's not now, but it was an event center. I was the last person to see his face, that lid closed, and I went, fuck, I gotta get up in front of everybody. I'm like the one thing that you know, I'm like, Wyatt's voice was in my head going, suck it up, pussy. Because like he told Brad once, run faster, you fat fuck. You know, and that was just Wyatt's way. He was dry, and he's like Chad. They'll say Quiet.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:37

Me and Wyatt vibe.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:41

Wyatt and Chad hung out almost every morning.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:45

Because Wyatt knew that Chad's room was a Chad in the autos area was a safe place he could go down and be with uncles that weren't gonna flip him shit for anything that could take him as he was.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:59

Then they were gonna be real with us.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:01

And they were gonna be real.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:02

And you know, the only reason that Wyatt ended up with that red car was because Chad's brother found it. Chad said Chad told White, dude, you need this car. And White's like, I don't want that car, I want a Camaro. Chad's like, dude, you need this car. It's cooler. Geyer told him it was cooler. And then I'm I finally told him he said, Look, let's get this car, and if you don't like it, we'll sell it, and you'll have more than enough money to buy a Camaro. And once he had the car, you know, it's done and it's never going anywhere. You know, and that's why you guys, and fast forward a little bit, we started the podcast because Andrew's like, you guys need to put well, we would sit here and joke around. People are like, You guys should record this. We weren't gonna, and I'm yeah, yeah, and we talked about it, and then I looked at the price of this stuff, and I'm like, nah. And then all of a sudden one day there's the box, and everybody knows that story, and you know, and he pushed us to it. And then we had like a year in, and Adam reaches out and he says, Hey, I listen, I'm from West Virginia, and I'm like, What? Someone from West Virginia is listening to us.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:05

We say the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:06

We do that shit all the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:08

We have fucking dudes from Australia that listen to us, it's weird, and I don't know why. We we cicada, if you guys for some reason are listening to this, I hope you call us over here.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:18

I and that's why that's why I I've always you know you guys almost every episode reference us, and that's why I always try to reference you guys because it's it goes back to that high tide raises all ships.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:30

And we purposely didn't just pigeonhole into off-road or rat rods or woodworking or construction. Yeah, we kind of screwed ourselves with that a little bit. We had too many.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:44

We kind of screwed ourselves with that. No, you didn't. We had to talk about offerings, yeah. No, we do. No, you don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:48

No, we do.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:49

It was what we made. Now we're gonna do it on a spike. No, no, no, we're not gonna talk about RC shit. I'm just kidding. Just kidding, guys.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:58

We couldn't really go to one. Area though because we all have different hobbies.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:02

But I love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:03

But all those hobbies we all share in each other's hobbies. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:06

Well, we learned today. It's like, you know, we we went to your house and your house was one thing. And uh I'm I'm pointing at Court. And then um we would come to Chris's house and it's like the automotive shop. Yeah. Court's kind of like the universal of We drink it. We drink it, my hell drinking drink and party and tinker on stuff. And then you go over to Chad's house, and Chad's house is like, oh, we're gonna build bro beautiful furniture that is just pause on the thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:33

That is or that is an orgasmic level of smooth and level. Each one of you guys by the way, I'm gonna put more coats on and do it again.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:42

Cat is a never good enough to get it, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:46

You all three so good though. And there's more than just three, right? But each one of you have like your own set garage style, and then you walk inside of it and you're like, Jesus, Christ, you didn't tell me you were the fucking Bill Gates of your own hobby. I mean, that's awesome. I love it, I love every aspect because you have an atmosphere.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:04

You guys get a bigger share garage.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:09

So fun. You guys seeing seeing all your guys' shops has inspired me. Big vibes.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:14

Good.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:14

Want to do different things with my setup whenever I spend money. Finally get into my new house and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:19

Adam, so Adam reaches out and he says, Hey, you know, I got a couple guys. We're we're we want to try to do a podcast. Any pointers or what you think? You know, he and I talked for like an hour and a half. We just it clicked right away.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:31

Did you ever hear the story about how that came to fruition on Super Bowl? So it was this just it's kind of happened. We're excited.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:38

You recorded Super Bowl week in the first year. We recorded Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:41

Um Zach was Zach and I were hanging out at home one day. And Christian, I think Christian, so Christian, he's been on our episode, he's been on our podcast a couple times. Big drift guy. And uh Christian and I had talked numerous times before Zach and I even talked about it of like wanting to start a podcast. And we both kind of were like, yeah, but neither one of us are available enough to be able to actually do it consistently and make it work. And then Zach was over at that, you know, he's over at my house every other day. We're working on Jeeps or something in the garage. We're always doing something, or we're having a cookout, or going on a family vacation or something, and we're always doing stuff together. Throwing balls at kids. And I told Zach, I said, Hey man, I was like, you know what you and I should do? You and I should do a podcast, man. I was like, we sit around all the time, we bullshit. And there's a lot of stuff that we bullshit about that I think people might be interested in hearing and might be kind of funny or entertaining. And he was like, Yeah, man, he's like, that's cool. He's like, but I don't know where to start. And I was like, Yeah, don't fucking either. Yeah, dude, we didn't have a clue. And we kind of sat there for like an hour and was Googling stuff. And in the meantime, Adam was on his way down to help us with something to the house. And when Adam showed up, he had no idea about this conversation prior. When Adam showed up, we're all in the garage, we're working. I don't remember what it was we were working on. We were doing something in my garage. I don't think it was any, I don't think it was mine. It might have been uh we might have been building my bumper for that one trip or something. Yeah, maybe possible, but we were we were all bullshitting and Adam's like, hey, have you guys ever thought about starting a podcast? And Zach and I both stopped what we were doing with each other and was like, actually, we were just talking about that. And he goes, Well, I know these guys that are doing a podcast, yeah, and I've thought about reaching out to them about seeing what kind of stuff they use and seeing how to get it going. And I and we were like, Yeah, let's do that. And that just kind of snowballed from he reached out to you in the conversation you're talking about, and it just snowballed.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:28

We had a couple conversations and and then you guys started. I'm like, I will, and I told him, I said, I will help you guys in any way possible. I always I always give Adam crap that I'm like, you know, complete off-road your first sponsor. Because I told him right from the beginning, I said, complete off-road I'll I don't we don't send you guys money, yeah, but we save you money. That's the same thing I did with OTR when I first found them. I found them because I was listening to Mike and Max.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:59

T OP, you mean and huh? You said OTR.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:03

Oh, T O P T O P I found them because Mike and Max were flipping shit about these Yahoos from Illinois that had a podcast, and I went, wait, what? You know, and I and that's how Adam found us because he was listening to that, and then yeah, we started. I never listened to podcasts prior to this. I haven't I started when I was driving back and forth to work, and I just I was sick of the radio stations playing the same six songs all the time. Yeah, and uh Mike Rowe's podcast was the first one I listened to because he was like that Paul Harvey style. He still kind of is, but he's kind of gone away from but the the way I heard it, you know, the original 100 was very Paul Harvey.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:43

And I that was did you know that Paul Harvey's from Charleston, West Virginia? I actually did know that, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:48

All right, full circle, and all I'm saying, cool fucking guys. It's impressive how many people, yeah. And that's that reminded me of riding around in the parts delivery truck with my grandpa or with dad because they would listen to Paul Hervey. Yeah, and then years later, dad found a guy named Garrison Keeler, and it's uh Lake Wobagun. And he was a rate, it was a radio show that then they made tapes of, and we would be driving family vacation, whatever, and we'd be listening to that, or another one, click and clack. You guys, the Tabby Brothers, you know? Of course. Listen to those guys. And I know Chad's listen to that, and Dad, we'd be going somewhere, Dad and I'd listen to those, and then we we'd be trying to figure out what what were they talking about, or you know, what was the fix. And so trying to diagnose the conversation that's like I was trying to find something like that, and I found my crow and then try to listen to that, and then I found I'm like, well, I'm driving to work to do off-road, you know, running at an off-road shop. So I what's out there for off-road? I found Micah Max. Um, there's the other one, the guys from California, yeah, the two brothers. Um snail trail came after them. The uh high Sierra podcast. Okay, I haven't heard so that was the actually the very first one I found. I found TOP from that uh snail trail was because one of the guys from Snail Trails was guest hosting on High Sierra for a little while. And actually, one of the guys from High Sierra actually lives six hours north here. He's in M Minnesota now. Okay. Nice. The guy, uh the older brother with the Dodge, the one that did all the axle work.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:26

I've never listened to them before, but all kind of dated now. Yeah. But they always they always talked that they were the axle talk podcast because all they ever talked about was building axles. But for me, it was something that I was hearing different parts of the country what was going on there, and and then when I found you guys, you guys started, I told Adam, I said, you guys call me when you need parts, shout us out. Um But there's hardly I don't get a lot of OTR10 unless I throw it out there and say, Hey, if it's somebody that I click with, or they've like the second or third time they're ordering, I'll say, Hey, I'm gonna throw this on here, go listen to these guys on this podcast. Uh and most of the time it's because most of our listeners they're like, I'm gonna pay full price because I respect what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:11

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:12

It's kind of like the guy he got a $30 haircut, but he's handing you $150.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:16

I think I think we don't get a lot of Rs just because we're in West Virginia and you guys are all the way up here. So there's kind of the idea of like, well, why would I order from them if they're all the way up there and I can order from down here?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:28

Yeah, well, and especially you've got you've got Beck and Drive Line and all those. But Rich, I don't know how many times Beck has texted me or called me, just you know, and I've told him like We've told him numerous times, like, hey man, if you need some something cheap that you can't get from Drive Line, hit up complete. And I and I've told him I can help you, or I know somebody that can get you that part, whatever. If I'm I can't, but also as he was starting to grow, I said, Hey, you need to get Moto Built. Get in with these, you know. I gave him the and it's and there's some guys that would be like, Why would you tell the competition that? I'm like, they're not competition.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:01

That's a weird thing to say.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:04

Well, well, well, well, well. Look what we have here headphones.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:08

If it isn't the end of the phone, if you want headphones, but I can't turn, I can't turn that mic on because I forgot to hit the record button when we started. So you gotta talk loud. Can you talk loud, guy?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:20

Oh, he can definitely talk loud. Say, we've we've probably been on for like what an hour and a half now?

SPEAKER_06 1:36:25

Hour and 36. So we never got around to why you guys are here.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:28

Well, we got side You're right. So, anyways. In true HDG episode fashion, we rabbit trailed many different ways. But I also wanted these both guys have had their own episodes on it, but we never really got deep into who they are. And that's why I want to make sure we did that on the main. We can talk about the shenanigans that you know may or may not have consequences, and and you know, we'll talk about them on the Patreon.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:54

Oh, yeah, the paywall, which is uh cheaper than any daily device.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:57

Yeah. I don't care what anybody's.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:58

Actually, I don't know what your price is.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:00

So if you head on to head on over to patreon.com forward slash acquire chart to take over.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:06

Yeah, we'll talk about we'll talk about that on the Patreon.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:09

But slightly mudded and offered rock roll.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:12

Your guys, let's wrap this up on the main of your guys' impressions of being at the Wyatt's Warriors golf outing.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:19

It was fucking a blast, man. I can't wrap this up in five minutes, but you take all the time you want. No, I don't want to do that. No, take all the time you want. We got five hours, baby. Let's talk. I've been to a couple events in my life, and this was the first one that um it didn't matter who I turned around and spoke with. Every single person that I had a conversation with just treated me as if I was you guys here. They didn't even know who I was, and they just treated me like I was just, you know, they they would look down, they'd see the shirt, and they would see the colors, and they're like, Oh, you're here for this. Cool, great, cool. And nobody at any point, like we did a lot of stuff that you know, I even in the middle of doing it, I'm like, I don't know, maybe we should probably go to the show. I don't want to get Chris in trouble. But we did it anyways. That's fine. But we were just having a good time, and it's like after we did it, I was like, I really hope that doesn't get Chris in trouble after it's over with. But it was just like I would look around, and all the other people in the other golf carts were just laughing their ass off, and they're like, Yeah! I'm like, all right, cool, we're good.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:32

Iowa nicest, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:35

You guys were the version of us year one. Oh and a little year two. Uncood. Hey Court, by the way, let's go on record right now. We we succeeded at our goal.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:45

Yep, didn't get hammered.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:46

We didn't get hammered. High five, buddy. Nice, so nice. That was Court and I Court and I are kind of the same where we will we will uh be very much in the moment, and then all of a sudden we're like, oh god, we're too deep.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:00

We're way too bugged up. Yeah. Hi. Well, there was there was one point Zach and I were like, we need to slow down now, right now, we need to slow down. We're getting a little rowdy. We need to slow down.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:13

What's your thoughts, Zach? I got drunk, sobered up, and drunk again.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:18

Listen, I was so excited to come anyways, and then get there, and like the only thing I'm gonna come. Uh got there at the point where I we just wanted to help initially, right? We wanted to be a part, we just wanted to help. So we get there, we're excited. There's people everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:35

I didn't care if I was gonna be here being a beer bitch. Yeah, sure. Don't care about it. I was just happy to be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:40

You guys were coming just to help, and Ricky was just and and sure. Mark, they you guys are all like, hey, we just want to be a part of it. And Annie's like, why aren't they golfing? I mean, I'm gonna do that too.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:50

I think it was you or Annie that messaged me and was like, hey, uh sign up a team.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:53

Yeah, Annie. She's like, they should. I said, you talk to them. Yeah, and then you two are like, yeah, we're coming. Then you're like, Mark, Ricky, you're golfing with us. And they're like, We've never even held a golf club. Doesn't matter, bro. Exactly. I'd already got a shirt for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:07

I'd already deduced the fact that I was like sure Mark never held a golf club with us.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:11

No, I don't, it's fine. I watched him swing a couple times. They're like, God dang it, I don't know if we even know what a golf club is.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:18

I'd already made up my mind. If one of them, if one of the clubs got broke, uh fine, fuck it, man. We ball. You know what I mean? You make money every day, boys. You can replace them. Um so the initial thing was just being there to be you know, be there to be a support for you and Annie and uh the boys, the fellas, and you know, first initial thought was when we got there. When we got here, I understood when we got here, it was really a pleasure to see you again. And then it was like, Oh, there's there's work to do, let's get some work done. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:51

Well, in respect, then you gotta meet Annie in person. You were the last to meet Annie in person.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:56

Salt of the earth, bro. Absolutely incredible woman. So that was a real treat. And then it was at that point, like you you already had a job, you had a job, you had a job, you had a job. Like everybody had a job, technically. I can tell you, Julian can I'm a floater, baby. I will fucking ADHD my way through the list and it will get done. But like, I swear to god, I'll see each one of you at different parts all the way through it. Well, we got here, we got here yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:22

We were like, let's let's help them load the trailer up, let's help them do that. And then and then I was like, Well, you know, so he doesn't have to drive all the way up here and get the trailer randomly and for no reason, go out of his way. I was like, why don't I just tow the trailer over there's stuff already here? And then we did that, and when we got there, I was like, All right, cool, let's unload the trailer. I was like, Ah, this is all in order. Uh, let's start stacking these up.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:41

I'm real good at watching other people do stuff and then finding something to do aside from that.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:46

Filling the holes, and that's just like you talked about I'm pretty good at filling the holes. You heard it here first, boys.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:52

She said, like a rapid in look.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:54

He did it well at least twice. Yeah. And but you you know, you said you talked about your event that you were at for uh AOT.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:04

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:05

You know, and how you were just filling in, and you know, the gals like Yeah, that's all you know, you it wasn't much direction. I I I didn't know what I needed, I didn't know what her car was, but we figured out and got it back in. And that's it was cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:18

That's I'll start opening doors and trunks and glove boxes, and I'm gonna find whatever they're gonna find.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:24

Well, it's just like you know, all I need is a all I need is a thumbs up or a wink from you or a yes from any. Bro, as long as I'm getting a as long as I'm continuing to get like a looks great, fuck all right. Next on the list, let's go keep on going.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:37

And you know, the guys around this table and Adam and Brad that aren't able to be here tonight. It's because they're gay. Yes, they are happy. Uh it's hey, I'm trying to be cheering your cat com. Okay, I'm sorry. There's there's a a quote I heard a while back uh a couple months ago that's kind of stuck with me, and I don't even remember where I heard it or where it was or who said it, but it was you can't do epic shit with basic people. Yeah. That's and big vibes, and that's something that I've been truly trying to work on in the last few months. Of that a fat electrician? I feel like that's fat electrician. It might be fat electrician. I like I said, I don't remember who said it, but I just it just all of a sudden that's one of those things that goes clicking your head and you it sticks there. Is you know, like we talked about just before why before Gear got here, about you know, building a scout. No, tell Guy what you were talking about before he got here. I'm just kidding. That he needs his own garage so he can do electrical there. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:40

My final rep for this weekend was the fact, and then I'm done. Was I told Julian, he said something to me, and I've said something to him. He said to me verbatim, if I could take this last night, as a matter of fact, we we went out and had our own moment for a moment. Do without what you want. Um I'll fucking reap the consequences, it's fine. They were this time. We we we had a little spot out there that we had a moment, and if we could take, he said this, I full credit. If we could take this group of men and these garages and these people and these machines, and put them in our location just because just because of the trails, okay? It's really pretty here. I'm just saying, this would be the world's most ideal setup for people to be around. And then we're talking to this, we're we're saying these things to our wives and our friends. I'm just like, bro, you guys haven't fucking met people like this. This is it's insane to surround yourself with this many good people and not have bad eggs, right? We all have quirks, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:44:51

We have we have this at home, but our circle is way smaller than yours, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:55

Intentionally, very intentionally.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:57

It has to be.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:58

Let's just and I can tell you know, like the thing that I told Julian was like, bro, I might have told you. I was like, I've told you consinually since I've been here how grateful and thankful I am to just be here. Like, thank you guys. I've probably told Annie 4,000 times, but dude, I have non-stop smiled since we got in the fucking truck at midnight because making the decision that we were leaving at midnight instead of 5 a.m. That was a moment that he and I have done where we've done this stuff before, and the moment we make that choice, fuck, we're winning the whole time.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:35

It's happening. We're doing it the whole way through, baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:39

And and we have a way of doing that with each other, but being able to be blessed with your company and open arms from you and all your friends, all your brothers and the fellas. You know, however you want to say it. But being welcome in like this and being treated like we've known each other for 20 years, come on, bro. Right, you can't create that type of shit. That's just genuine good people.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:01

Getting to meet the fellas and I haven't stopped smiling the whole time.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:04

I'm having a fucking ball, boys. This is better than Disney World. Fuck Disney World.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:08

Getting to meet all the fellas.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:10

It does. It does right off the rip.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:16

Disney World is the most miserable place.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:18

Yeah, fuck that mouse. They lied.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:20

If you don't have the money to pay for all the fat, if you're freaking poor, Disney World's poverty, fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:27

Fuck sorry, fuck poverty. Anyways, be being able to drive 12 hours here and just meet a bunch of quote unquote strangers, and these strangers treat you as if you're just their regular friends. You you guys have all treated us like we're just one of you, and it's been incredibly humbling to show up and just yeah, man, what do you need? We can help you with whatever you need.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:54

I'm extremely grateful to have the opportunity to be here and be friends with each and one of you, each and every one of you. And thank you. I I can thoroughly say that we both respect and adore and look up to you and your families. And it doesn't just stop at you, it goes for your kid, Caleb. It goes for Izzy and Annie, and you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:10

I mean, we spent time around your son and his buddies yesterday, and they were they were a great time. We had a great fucking time. Yeah, I know. We had a great fucking time with those guys, mate.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:22

I was like, it makes sense.

SPEAKER_07 1:47:23

But I you know and now you understand why he is the way that he is. Oh, yeah, yeah. For me, and now it's like, oh yeah, I guess that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:33

I just I don't know that I can tell you thank you enough for the opportunity. There's no thanks neither because we uh the friendship's enough. But you need to know the appreciation and adoration that we do have for you because we want everybody in our circle to be to win all the fucking time. And if you feel like you're losing, then then I'll lose I'll lose for you. But same with Julian. We'll take steps down in order for everyone to step up. I uh it's just really cool to meet a bunch of dudes that are the same in that regard.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:02

I I'll I'll wrap it up with this. Good, because I got a PP is we don't use the title title fella loosely.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:16

See, I wouldn't know. I mean I wouldn't know you wouldn't know that from an outside perspective.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:20

Um Geyers wanted to point fella before the podcast was even a thing. And I understand there's been and we have friends outside of our circle, but our circle is the fellas. But I don't I and maybe I'm only speaking for me, but you you two and Adam are the our our West Virginia brother and is what I use but you're fellas. You're you're sick. We fucking missed get in the car before they change their mind, Mary. Let's go. Hey, you haven't loaded your tires yet. Let's leave it.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:01

Oh yeah, we're gonna do that later. Yeah. So I I forgot to tell you, Zach, I'm bringing home a set of four. Oh, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:08

I didn't forget at all. Yeah, really cool set.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:10

Gladiator X comps and some dirty left beat loss.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:13

Yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:14

What was that, Gary?

SPEAKER_07 1:49:15

No, I was just gonna say there's there's uh there's a level of dedication to it that it takes to be a group like this. Like some days you end up doing shit with them that fucking sucks, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:28

Yeah, some days you end up carrying it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:30

Some make you fight like brothers, like being 48 hours deep and been put to work.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:35

Yeah. But we did sometimes you haven't slept in fucking 39 hours or eaten.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:40

You thought we were just you thought we were just like you know, oh if you would have said it was initiation, I would have just been cool with that. You were tested yet. You passed.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:47

If you would have said that it was cool, I just didn't have that baseline.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:49

He said, you know, they're forty eight hours deep and not asleep, and I put 'em to work hauling equipment and loading trailers. I'm sorry for letting on the grass.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:58

But we didn't put them in. The middle of you and me not getting along. We reserve that for court.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:06

Zach, exact, exact. They're yelling at each other again.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:09

What do we do?

SPEAKER_03 1:50:10

Oh, look at the what time is my blood sugar, guys. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_07 1:50:13

Oh yeah, I don't have a pancreas. I gotta go polish my toenails real quick.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:20

You probably do. Well, they melted and now they're all shiny. That's true. I think that we if you know, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:26

What you're saying, I think that we do the same with the whole thing, like where we just like, yeah, I love you. I love you bye. Yep. I don't tell people that that I don't mean it too. So like it does come off extremely casual.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:35

As we were walking out here to record this, we got Izzy and Annie, bro. We walked out the door, and Zach said, Okay, love you bye. And Annie and Izzy were like, All right, love you bye. And we walk out the door, and Zach goes, Bro, I'm so happy that we were able to make our thing everybody's thing. You honestly did. The fact that they say it, and it's like it makes us so happy.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:56

It means something for a long time. I was like Adam for 45 years. I was like Adam, where it was like that's like for my kids and wife and mom and dad. And then But what about for you? It's you know, listen, you guys talk about it and that it's I've opened up that new part, and but it's also made me think about who I say, you know, who I even say, you know, or or who I even look at the phone and be like, yep, I'll answer that. Because you can look at a phone and know it, okay. They're they're calling because they want something. These guys never call because they want want something other than do you need help? And I do the same to them.

unknown 1:51:36

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:37

Saying tell your friends you love them. Yeah, it's you know, and and you know, it's not it's obviously I know there's like a weird stigma. No, there's an accountability factor in there too, but yeah, you know, you know, it's Zach Zach and I many times have sent reels back and forth to each other that's just like you know, it's a mo it's a motivational reel that's saying something like, you know, I you're a great dad, and I love you for the dad that you are. Yeah, keep doing what you're doing, or something like that. Wait, we we you same thing with Adam, like we we all try to help pick each other up, even if we don't know if we're down or not, right? We even if we feel like we're up, and I'm like, yeah, Zach's doing great, Adam's doing great. I'm still gonna send you this.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:15

The world we live in, the general public, your customers. I'm not talking about your clients, I'm talking about your customers. Yeah, wild difference, guys. Man, fuck. We get beat up enough, guys. Do we not do we not fucking carry enough goddamn weight? 100%. So if I can we're doing good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, gentlemen. We're good. Right. Fuck the rest, tell ya. You know what I mean? That's okay. Boot and rally. Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:46

With that.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:48

Do we have any final statements?

SPEAKER_01 1:52:50

I you know toasts? Yeah. Because I do, I have more important than us reviving up, uh, Annie has texted that supper is ready.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:00

Oh, well, that's wonderful. So some din-din. That'll definitely put a spell on your face. Yes. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:06

So, Iowa fellas, toasts or final words.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:14

As usual, nothing.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:16

I I don't know when we're gonna cross paths again, but I'm gonna grow my hair out.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:20

Yeah. There you go. Oh, yeah, baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:23

Uh possibly August or October.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:28

August is uh August, I'll be in the middle of the city. That's right, August you are busy, so there will be another trip up this year. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:53:34

I I saw when we went over to the Biouk, like, I just feel like going to Goodwill and stuff etc. today, you know, the consignment store. I'm like, I don't know. We were walking through stuff, and I saw something like gosh, I just buy that and hang it on the wall out here. And it said, We will be friends forever. If we're not, I'm gonna have to kill you because you know too much. Yes, it's all so true. We're gonna be friends forever. It's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:10

I forgot to tell you this last night, and I haven't seen your wife because as soon as I do, she will ask Annie. But I did cheat on her again and was Zach. So damn I noticed. I know you noticed last night, but I got back. Oh, wait, was I talking to I was talking shit to her?

SPEAKER_03 1:54:28

That just clicked, bro. That just clicked.

SPEAKER_07 1:54:32

Was up his ass. Oh my god, I can do more than he can. Oh, I use a brazer. No, I can use a razor.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:44

That's awesome. Why would you pick you cat her higher? I love that. No, when I get a later taller than him. She's short. I love this. Hey, when I got back from Attica, it was like two or three days later. We saw Julie somewhere. Annie gets a text like a couple hours later, who cut Chris's hair? But please tell her that I was joking. I was totally fucking with her, bro. It wasn't even I wasn't even back yet. We had put the pictures on Facebook.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:21

And she saw it and she texts in and she's like, who cut Chris's hair? And Annie's like, it's his friend from West Virginia that's a barber. It's the guy that I told you I was trying to find a flight to fly him down on for the opening, you know, the opening day and get his hair cut.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:36

Unbelievable. Please tell her that I was all all seriousness, just being silly.

SPEAKER_07 1:55:42

Uh Cameron went into the barber to get his hair cut. Sure. Ended up Julie. I'll hope she fixes it. Whatever, whatever's brother. You say hey, look. She goes, she just wanted to watch and do it. Listen, see how they did it.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:55

Send it to tell her to message me. We'll hook that up. I'm dead serious on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:00

She was uh no, no, no, no, no, no messaging. Uh we have to take her and Gyarr to West Virginia. There you go. Given the Cold's mouth experience. Cold's mouth experience. That's cool. And then we'll go to then we'll go down to the ranch for a couple days.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:14

Oh, that's totally perfect.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:15

See, I told you I'd find a way to make A go to.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:20

I I love West Virginia. Yeah. For the mathematics, I'd probably live there like in a heartbeat. Same. Same.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:28

Driving through my fucking suck.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:31

It ended up, we ended up having to go through like we spent a lot of time like we drove all the way through West Virginia. Sure, sure. On our way to Philadelphia because I forgot to kick off the GPS. That's fine. Avoid all the toll roads.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:44

Oh, bro. You hit 79, 68, everything.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:46

I was creeping up on freaking Baltimore before they kicked us up north to uh Philly. But uh we're going through driving through West Virginia, and it was like at sunset, and it was like this might be the most beautiful place on earth. Yeah, it is. It's John Demers associated. It's actually where they filmed Jurassic Park. Almost heaven.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:07

I've actually been where they filmed Jurassic Park in Hawaii. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:10

In Honolulu. So we're gonna follow OTR tradition and let Julian have the last um final thoughts.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:21

I my final thought for this one is hopefully appropriate, but what I will tell you is there was a moment yesterday where there was chaos, there was laughter, there was just antics of mass proportion. I was held by an old man with a lot of hair on him.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:46

A Wookiee.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:47

Yeah. Just kidding. He's not a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:50

Just cradled by a Wookiee.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:52

I was picked up and carried by a grown man while also being a grown man. Um but what I want to get at here is there was so much fun. There was adventure, there was excitement, there was drinks, there was camaraderie and brotherhood and laughter and carrying on and fucking off and trying to flip carts. Also, there was a moment where everything subsided and there was a couple of people, very specifically three people that had for no reason that I'm aware of, we left and went and sat by a tree. I clearly don't know what we're talking about or what we're doing because uh it seemed like the right thing to do, so I'm stepping in the line, right? Um go up, sit down, uh Julian sits down, Mrs. sits down, Annie, I sit down. I just didn't want to put it out like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:51

No, that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:52

Um so Julian, Annie, and I and Julian sat on the ground, Annie sat on the ground, I sat on the ground. We talked, we were just talking normal conversation for a minute, and then I realized that was I realized that was why it's tree. And at that moment, everything that was happening, hundreds and hundreds of people behind of us, in front of us at the driving range that weren't involved, there were carts still going, there was balls everywhere, shit was nuts. You couldn't hear anything, could you? They got quiet. You couldn't hear anything, could you? They got quiet, not a fucking word, except for Annie talking and Julian and I. And we were sitting in the middle of a f couple hundred people. I'm telling you, it was an I an exorbit amount of peace and solitude and just in that 10-foot radius.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:48

We wanted to talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:48

All three of us sat there and cried before anyone else got over there and showed up. We had a serious moment.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:57

And then it grew, and and I saw you guys over there, and we were wrapping up silent auction. That I'm like, everybody's like, Where's Annie? I was like, She's just she's taking some time. And I saw you guys sitting over there with her. I'm like, that's that's that's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:11

That was my favorite part.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:12

Annie has said that she was going over there, and for some reason, something inside of me was like, She shouldn't go alone.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:19

And I I love that.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:20

I just wanted to go with her, so I went, I was like, I'll go with you.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:23

You know, I learned more about Zach that I'm not gonna get into here. That there's a way bigger I always felt like there's a a special connection with Zach, and then this weekend I realized why. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:34

And I'm not gay.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:36

No, he is pretty cute though. But no, uh, and that's part of what I wanted my final words before I let Julian have the last word. And we're doing we're doing a typical Iowa goodbye here. I know, because we're almost at we are at two hours right now. It's fine.

SPEAKER_07 2:00:53

And if you've hung with us. We we heard. We heard the Iowa goodbye for seven hours. We want to hear about that on Patreon.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:04

I'm gonna let y'all go. Listen, watch out for the deer. I'm gonna let y'all go.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:07

So you guys had talked about it on the podcast on your podcast last week or a week or two ago, about you know, the problem you have in West Virginia at uh, you know, seven suicides in three months. And how you're like, we need to do something, we need to figure something out. We're gonna be up there, we're gonna talk to them. And I played that for Annie. I said, You need to hear this before they get here. And then, you know, you guys talked a little bit here and there, and then we sat down at breakfast this morning and started talking about it, and it's a huge honor uh and humbling that you guys want to take my son's name and the foundation that's in his memory and start something in West Virginia to help kids and you know eat service members, military, whoever it touches. It's not in a whole other fucking state, it's 600 miles away.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:09

It's not that we don't respect the the is it AFPS or AFPS? Whatever, yeah. The acronym, okay. It's not that we don't respect that. That's that's not what I believe in. You have to ramble till he gets back from P. That's that's not what I believe in. I believe in what's actively happening because I see the weight of both organizations. I don't act like I didn't research it.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:31

Oh, I know you did.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:33

I see the weight of both organizations. This one might have federal funding, and you do too, but this one might have an exorbitant amount of money being shoved into someone's fucking pocket, but this one has money shoved into someone's heart and it's changing lives actively. That's what I want to be a part of. Because my children are affected.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:54

Every dime that we bring in, other than to keep things going, is getting shoved back out to people. And that's been the the stay of it because that's that was Wyatt's attitude. Yeah, we found out later on that there was kids that there was one kid that was actually had bullied Wyatt, and then Wyatt was walking into a a basketball game at the high school, and the kid was standing outside and he's like, What are you doing? And he's like, Oh, I don't I keep I don't even mind to get in or anything. Well come on. And Wyatt paid his way in.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:24

Yeah, that doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:25

Even though the kid had bullied him and been a piece of shit to him, they were wrestl they were wrestling teammates, and Wyatt took that first and you know, laid his stuff aside and to help somebody else out. And that's that's the I don't what's the word, Chad?

SPEAKER_03 2:03:45

You just said that just because he's a teacher?

SPEAKER_01 2:03:47

He's smarter than me. That was kind of his aura. Yeah, his aura, his his philosophy, just his personality, his code, maybe. I don't know what you but was, you know, compass. Do better to others than they've done to you. And you know, and you guys are that way, and he's finally back, so we can say final words where we can go eat because I'm hungry.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:12

Oh man, I was in pain.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:14

Hey, hey, food, all right, food, Julie, all right, wrap it up.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:19

Sorry, I was losing the war. Um, dude, I was about to pee on my leg. Um you won't do it. So my final words that I have for this podcast is um it is currently Men's Mental Health Month, and obviously that's important to all of us here. Um but more importantly, it's important to the people that it impacts. Um, you know, I don't want to put lack of importance to the people that are gone, but I do want to put and shed light on the people that they affect and the people that are still here, um, and how it affects the memory that they've carried on. Rem remember those people and the effect that it had on everyone else around them. Um you you do matter to somebody, you do matter to people that you might not even think that you do in the moment. Tell your friends you love them, tell your fellows you love them, tell your family you love them. Cherish each other, take that minute to stop have the conversation with somebody. Hey man, you okay? Even if they seem fine, just take that minute to be like, hey man, you okay? Um Hey babe, you okay? I love you, honey. Um do it Do it for yourself, do it for your friends, do it for your fellas, do it for your family. Do it for what?

SPEAKER_06 2:06:01

Well said.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:02

Whoever whoever it is you're doing it for, do it. Take that moment and tell him you love him.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:09

With that, I love you guys. Love you by the way. Here at the table and listening. Bye, Sickle. Bye.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:29

You fuzzy.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:30

I've been squirmining.

SPEAKER_07 2:06:31

I've been squirming for the last half hour over here to know how I feel almost every time I do it.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:38

Oh my god, so bad.